WRX VS Lotus = A very BAD DAY!

25 nov 2020
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This was an unexpected, and expensive day out for everyone involved...
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    Mighty Car ModsMighty Car ModsPirms 3 Mēnešiem
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      Dewald PretoriusDewald PretoriusPirms 2 Mēnešiem
    • Ah, I feel so sad for people who buy mid engine cars and dont get taught that the braking points and acceleration points as well as the driving line around a race track differ alot from most other cars and then think they bought shit cars because they dont behave like the cars they are used to.

      Stephan FourieStephan FouriePirms 2 Mēnešiem
    • Moog. Just watching you corner. You need better front tyres and a little softer front damper.

      marvin martinmarvin martinPirms 2 Mēnešiem
    • What tyres are you using? This generation of Elise/Exige need quite soft tyres otherwise it will be twitchy. It can be hard to find the right ones as there aren't many choices which actually work well on them. Yokohama AD07/AD08 were good but they don't make them anymore. There should also be absolutely no play in the steering at all, if there is then something is wrong. I'd advise fitting stronger toe links as well as OEM ones are known to snap under very high stress once they get old (if they haven't already been done, it's likely they have, check the condition of them too). Infact that should be the first mod as people have died as a result of those going!

      Mister NobodyMister NobodyPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • So was the Lotus a swaybar issue too? Maybe they were just too stiff so you couldn't corner properly? Being too high for the suspension is a problem obviously too.

    corvanphoenixcorvanphoenixPirms 4 dienām
  • Where's the episode with Marty fixing his STI?

    Steven SiwinskiSteven SiwinskiPirms 4 dienām
  • Correct me if im wrong but you were running a torbo back exhaust with the stock tune? Isnt that a garunteed recipe for engine problems?

    Chris MathyChris MathyPirms 6 dienām
  • A Lotus can be frustrating to approach. There's so much less margin of error at the limit than with other cars. But once you figure it out, it gets extremely satisfying and you can chop cars that are much more expensive and 'faster'. About the oversteer, I would sart by checking if the shocks are still good and getting some stickier tyres. I had the same Yokohama Advans as Moog on mine and I could get it to powerslide with only 120hp. I was generally underwhelmed with that tyre. And when the left rear shock died it got a lot worse, of course.

    YAMAURIXT500YAMAURIXT500Pirms 13 dienām
    • I agree with you and welcome to my channel about cars

      Covert GarageCovert GaragePirms 7 dienām
  • First mod: baffled oil pan

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakePirms Mēneša
  • So that EVO 9 was all just a dream?

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakePirms Mēneša
  • Living that lotus lifestyle

    baby yoda partakebaby yoda partakePirms Mēneša
  • Mid engine rear wheel drive car characteristics go against what your brain thinks, had an MR2 turbo that scared the shit out of me a good few times lifting of mid corner. Learned to keep my foot on the accelerator even when it starts to slide. Pendulum effect.

    Insane GymRatInsane GymRatPirms Mēneša
  • woow that supercharger whine sounds amazing. Never realized superchargers sound so good

    Zohaib AsifZohaib AsifPirms Mēneša
  • Bad Driver. Lotus is a Car for good Driver 😉

    saugerspeedstersaugerspeedsterPirms Mēneša
    • Right! So you're welcome to my video blog about cars.

      Covert GarageCovert GaragePirms 7 dienām
  • Moog is such a amateur driver cringe asf

    KB FNKB FNPirms Mēneša
  • Subaru reliability 😞

    Behraad AriayeBehraad AriayePirms Mēneša
  • Moog you have really great listening skills , I could never 😂

    L HerreraL HerreraPirms Mēneša
  • Is that Rodney?!?! 😂😂😂 Poor marty

    Jonathan ConwayJonathan ConwayPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Did you get lift-off oversteer with the BRZ?

    Koito robKoito robPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • It's not supercar...

    Koito robKoito robPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Stroker kit

    tommy riordantommy riordanPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • sell wrx sti and buy evo 6

    Nik BulanovNik BulanovPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • their face show how much they spend on it, how much they love their car. this is heartbroken moment..

    fariz ascarizfariz ascarizPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • *Killer B oil pickup and windage tray* They save EJs

    Rome1017Rome1017Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • that lotus is pretty loose :D

    D CD CPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • As a Subaru technician I know that ticking noise all to well. Time to pull it and make it stronger and faster.

    Ray WolfwinskiRay WolfwinskiPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Lmaoooooooo ... Through back days. Pizza 🍕

    Brandyn HernandezBrandyn HernandezPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Sounds like you need bigger ends lol. Hope you got it early and its an easy fix

    Just Harry JohnsonJust Harry JohnsonPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Full Sti swap?

  • Needs moar Yoda

    Kenneth LarsenKenneth LarsenPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • short wheelbases for very tight grip tracks.. audi s3 hatch rally grip racers.. u can adjust rear down force on lotus to increase grip

    MoVieZafterMidNiGhTMoVieZafterMidNiGhTPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Moog nearly cleaned up the field. Great camerawork and great comments on those cars too guys.

    Strongboy 72Strongboy 72Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Not the Subaru!!! Sorry Marty. Moog just needs to ride along with a more experienced driver.

    toddms41toddms41Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Marty: Heart break due to bearing failure Viewers: Excited for engine rebuild content? Me: Hopefully more Evo content!!

    alexobviouslyalexobviouslyPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • F for Subaru

    Jesse Valentine PortzJesse Valentine PortzPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Fix the Scooby.

    Andrew LofthouseAndrew LofthousePirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • I watched u guys from the beginning and I’ve never seen 2 grown ups being that much emotional, u guys are true car guys my heart and respect goes out to you

    Myster E46Myster E46Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Build the subi, they are not really good until the bottom end is line honed, forged rods and crank, big studs, sleeved cylinders with solid deck insert. Once it's good for 800hp it will last forever at 450.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt SumthinorotherPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Stock bottom end Subis have one thing in common. It's not if it will blow up, it's when.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt SumthinorotherPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Lot of body roll for a track. Maybe bigger sway bars.

    Kurt SumthinorotherKurt SumthinorotherPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • The disappointment on both their faces when the cylinder left the chat, broke my heart💔

    Hasziel GonzalezHasziel GonzalezPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Harness without hans device is not really the best idea out there.

    Sam PSam PPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • this has to be my favorite LVworld channel!..

    Armani GtrArmani GtrPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Shane goes to TAFE - bring on the Frenzal

    A.L.A.L.Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • The lotus may be Better over all but its also 100 times more sensitive to wheel and alignment setup. you'll get it right and you will be surprised how much faster you are! Well done boys

  • Whoah, this snuck into my playlist. Didnt even see the alert.

    Iron ReedIron ReedPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • I am thinking the the Subaru could do with the best engine you can get..... an EJ20 Billet Block www.google.com/search?q=ej20+billet+block&oq=ej&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i67j69i60l2.3795j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    Matthew SargentMatthew SargentPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • That intro. 🤣

    flying munk89flying munk89Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • driver mods. Driver mods. Driver mods.

    god084god084Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Hey guys whats the app you are using to get lap times

    Paul SinniPaul SinniPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • FBI Open up (c) Subaru

    im'Rockim'RockPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Spin caused by lift off oversteer. I think you need some instruction if this is your first RWD mid engine car

    ACACPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Would definitely like to see the fix / rebuild 👍🏻

    Robin ERobin EPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Nothing that a nu crankshaft kit and set of rods won't fix.................

    pete dpete dPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Moog spinning in that track freaking scared me, glad that he only spun out ! And Marty's face when the sti started knocking just broke me. I had the same exact expression when I first started hearing a sound in my subie, except that Marty did hold back on those tears !

    Mr. MolinaMr. MolinaPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Google "lift-off" oversteer ;-) Hint: some cars are oversteering on lift-off so that you need to keep accelerating in corner (lightly) move weight on to rear wheels to get traction...

    Piotr KopczyńskiPiotr KopczyńskiPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • seems to be expensive to go to the track...

    Janne KokkoJanne KokkoPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • You should swap the 2.5 into the STI

    IvelLeCogIvelLeCogPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Das ist das Problem mit Boxermotoren. Die erleiden zu schnell einen Defekt. Sehr anfällig obwohl sie sich so toll anhören... 😔

    Chris1312_YTCChris1312_YTCPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • I feel Martys pain firsthand. I had a v3 JDM STi swapped impreza, drove it like crazy for a year, then finally took it to the track and a couple over-revs (8250rpm fuel cut on those JDM ECUs) did it in. Rebuilt the motor and it did autocross for years afterwards, and then on to a new owner. I love those JDM EJ20s.

    EliotEliotPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • This just proves that adding more power is not the answer. It's the complete package that needs to improve handling and performance. You need a stability analysis otherwise upgrade to an Exige S. They are awesome and can handle the increased power. Good luck mate. Glad you are ok.

    Jim SmithJim SmithPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • The reason why you span out was because you were had a mid rear engine car so if you press the brakes to hard you spin out

    Julie GoodwinJulie GoodwinPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Garmin is ok, Rand McNally is better. Currently have a Garmin in my truck and it likes to tell me to take roads that don't exist. I also find them to not be as user friendly as the Rands but that is likely in large part subjective. Edit: since im sure people will assume its because of missing updates, no its not. It gets updated and it has roads marked across pastures and through forests that if they ever were a road its been decades. Yes I've had Rand GPS and Google maps do similar things, but not nearly at the same frequency.

    Jay DunbarJay DunbarPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Sound just like my Miata when cold, dont worry its normal

    PepegaPepegaPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • new challange, find the cheapest possible used car to chop this :) my bet is any VW 1.9 TDI 96kw chiped :)

    Filip MašekFilip MašekPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • So I took away from that "You put the cheese in the middle of the doughnut" ? :P

    Jimbo DeeJimbo DeePirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Marty u did ur best. Moog u should take more class on real driving

    HD KHD KPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • 'Ringland' Subaru #102,012

    Hard_Boiled85Hard_Boiled85Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • im surprised they havnt had an nsx yet.

    Rory NestaRory NestaPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • I’ve seen too many subies die. Terrible engines

    juliosachumpjuliosachumpPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Why don't U get some driver training?

    Peter SmithPeter SmithPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • i like them but i don't. Not a fan how they can be super funky in the corners at high speed, super easy to spin out, but i also never had a lotus guy teach me how to drive it.. lol

    InSanityPurgeXInSanityPurgeXPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Moog had a Butt Pucker Moment lol...

    Stubby PickleStubby PicklePirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • In light of the latest two videos this video should be called; Useless Lotus mechanics (twice) don’t pick up that literally “everything was way off on the setup, including suspension and brakes” before letting Moog go out and nearly get killed on the track.

    xpictos777 xxpictos777 xPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Santa Cruz shirt spotted on Moog

    Kurt RingerKurt RingerPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Always enjoy your videos chaps cheer me up because unfortunately in the UK we've got bastards attacking our cars for catalytic converters and stolen mine out of my Civic Type R. Glad you were not hit on that spin it could have been bad when you get to know the limits of the car on the set up it will be awesome🤣👍

    Android 890Android 890Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • The moment he heard that knock... I'm so sorry for u marty 😥 but you fix it amd make it even stronger i know it ❤️ the low 1:50s f' it the high 1:40s are calling rexxy

    Dobstair _BMWDobstair _BMWPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Forged Rebuild!

    Jack WaltonJack WaltonPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • aw marty my heart sank I'm sorry buddy

    DzynDzynPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Check the anti roll bar bushings with that lotus, like put it on a lift and pull on them and see if their loose or if they've disintegrated, as that back end should not be coming around like its a flat 12 Ferrari testarossa or a similar midengined V12 grand tourer, as that things going out like a guy with a ferrari who's laying on the throttle way too much and has no grip.

    Kavinsky SmithKavinsky SmithPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Loves the shirt "Shane"

    Shane HricShane HricPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Sir your gonna have to learn how to drive a rear engined car! get one the lotus guys to teach you how. If you lift under load at speed, you lose!

    Fryman KikoManFryman KikoManPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Moog: Tighten the nut behind the wheel. By that I mean get some wheel time with an instructor, and get more seat time with the Lotus in general. If setup is in question and the rear end is coming around too easily, the rear is set up too hard - sway bar is too big, springs and dampers are too stiff, not enough static negative camber. I had a 2006 WRX wagon previously, I had put a lot of time and effort into, I had it for 12 years and many many upgrades. I knew that car inside and out when I sold it. I've had my IS350 Fsport (RWD) about a year and ~6,000 covid miles at this point, I still don't have a complete feel for it, I also haven't been able to push it much yet, but it's limits are much higher than I've driven it so far. I'll get there eventually, but I need more seat time, especially solo seat time (typically have the wife or kids in tow so I don't drive aggressively with them in the car). The Lexus is "stock" for now and I hope to keep it that way as long as possible, I have a project car I have been neglecting so the goal is to turn my eyes and wrenches to that as I just daily the Lexus. Related, a Lotus Exige of this era is my attainable dream car, so I do have a vested interest in it being on the channel more. EDIT: Marty - same to you, get some wheel time with an instructor, I don't think you've reached peak in the current setup.

    Jason YoungJason YoungPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • re Lotus: don't waste you money throwing parts at it, its mid engine and needs a new approach to pedalling, get some coaching, learn to drive it and stick the OEM geo back on it, way better VFM than another 20bhp.

    Ricky BobbyRicky BobbyPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • get a celica zzt231 2zzge motor :]

    GucciGucciPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • That sucks so bad it was going good. Iv done 2 rebuilds and one swap on my ej22 already and low and behold now I need a trans. But got to love the subie, there an amazing driving experience.

    Steven MartinezSteven MartinezPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • I hope we get to see a video of the engine rebuild!

    Kyle MorrisKyle MorrisPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Ya need REVS sir. redline that little bastard if you have to only way your catching the brz.

    NeutronicalGamingNeutronicalGamingPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Lotus: short wheel base RWD. They are twitchy WRX: baffle sump Marty

    Leon DeSilvaLeon DeSilvaPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • damn i know that feeling, mid engine is a totally different monster on track compared to front engine, behaves so differently... well that and probably the 10 year old tires dont help either

    Richard GollenRichard GollenPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • That lotus seems like shes got alot more in her. Subaru on other hamd haha how unusual hahah

    Sean EdwardsSean EdwardsPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Do you guys have a Tow Truck on speed dial for track days? 😂 😭

    sparky1306sparky1306Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • EZ6 or 2.5 for the WRX?

    TheLiquidKnightTheLiquidKnightPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • i bet they both have more seconds to save in those cars, the lines were poor and not seeing the turns properly. They need to hire a track instructor

    Mike MorozovMike MorozovPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • blown subie? NO WAY!

    Gerrick SteveGerrick StevePirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • What ever happened to Miss Daisy's engine?

    Robert StevensRobert StevensPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • You haven't owned a Subaru till you have heard a big end knocking! Brought back memories of the STI IV Type R, also had a no.3 go at the track.

    John BrinkmanJohn BrinkmanPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • tires tires tires and suspension!! I'm sorry moog i know you expected more out of that car but, BUT you will get her there!! keep pushing it! MCM 4 LIFE!! lol been with yall from the start KEEP IT UP YALL!!!

  • You need to get an Oil Accumulator, Accusump or similar and a proper baffled sump before trying any High G sustained cornering. It's cheap insurance and way cheaper than rebuilding or purchasing a new crate engine.

    Charlie WolfCharlie WolfPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • Mid Engine and rear are very different from Front engine, growing up going to PCA events my pops only spun out a few times while I was with him in the 911 but it is an on/off on balance, the moment you lose it, with Rear and Mid the car is gonna go an no amount of correction is gonna help because the weight is all aft of you. But glad you are safe and the car is ok, but that spin was you at your limit not the car, like you said you have to get better acclimated with the car and you two will do awesome things amigo.

    Carlos RiveraCarlos RiveraPirms 2 Mēnešiem
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    alkatraz nomadovalkatraz nomadovPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • One way to view Marty's STi 'bad day' thing is: Shouldn't the ECU guard against happenings like these in any way it can? A wrong shift (3 instead of 5) means a power cut, etc?

    udovdhudovdhPirms 2 Mēnešiem
  • ✌🏼👍🏼🤘🏼😎

    The Michael VortexThe Michael VortexPirms 2 Mēnešiem